Comments on: Do you write your own check-lists ? http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/ General Aviation and Aviation In General Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:23:43 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: 18 posts that will make you a safer pilot | Plastic Pilot http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/comment-page-1/#comment-25320 18 posts that will make you a safer pilot | Plastic Pilot Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:03:10 +0000 http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/#comment-25320 [...] Do you write your own checklists ? [...] [...] Do you write your own checklists ? [...]

]]> By: Line-up check… done http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/comment-page-1/#comment-6909 Line-up check… done Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:02:31 +0000 http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/#comment-6909 [...] the discussion about checklists that followed my “Do you write your own checklists ?” post, the addition of safety items popped out (thank you Sylvia…). I reviewed some [...] [...] the discussion about checklists that followed my “Do you write your own checklists ?” post, the addition of safety items popped out (thank you Sylvia…). I reviewed some [...]

]]> By: Sylvia http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/comment-page-1/#comment-2591 Sylvia Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:07:33 +0000 http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/#comment-2591 I created my own, based on the checklist in the manual but with re-ordering and additions. One of the things I want to do (in fact, I <i>will</i> do before we go flying next month) is a checklist for the back - going through all the things a passenger should do (check door is set to locked, headset is working, belts on) and should know (where are the air sick bags/life jackets/boat). I created my own, based on the checklist in the manual but with re-ordering and additions. One of the things I want to do (in fact, I will do before we go flying next month) is a checklist for the back – going through all the things a passenger should do (check door is set to locked, headset is working, belts on) and should know (where are the air sick bags/life jackets/boat).

]]> By: PlasticPilot http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/comment-page-1/#comment-2395 PlasticPilot Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:37:16 +0000 http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/#comment-2395 @Jason: you're right, there are things like passenger briefing that manufacturer do not include in their checklists which are good to add. @Doug & Julien: thank you for the links to interesting resources. I know of the "visual circuits" that more complex planes require, and it's interesting to see this technique applied to our GA planes. @Chris: I never flew using directly the manual, but check-lists extracted from it ;-) ... @Jason: you’re right, there are things like passenger briefing that manufacturer do not include in their checklists which are good to add.

@Doug & Julien: thank you for the links to interesting resources. I know of the “visual circuits” that more complex planes require, and it’s interesting to see this technique applied to our GA planes.

@Chris: I never flew using directly the manual, but check-lists extracted from it ;-) …

]]> By: Julien http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/comment-page-1/#comment-2386 Julien Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:16:28 +0000 http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/#comment-2386 SAM of "Blogging at FL250" had a nice blog post a while ago about checklists and using visual flows in the cockpit instead of, or in addition to, checklists. He even was kind enough to provide an example based on the C150 cockpit: http://fl250.blogspot.com/2007/06/flows-checklists.html SAM of “Blogging at FL250″ had a nice blog post a while ago about checklists and using visual flows in the cockpit instead of, or in addition to, checklists. He even was kind enough to provide an example based on the C150 cockpit:

http://fl250.blogspot.com/2007/06/flows-checklists.html

]]> By: Chris http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/comment-page-1/#comment-2374 Chris Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:25:02 +0000 http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/#comment-2374 I'm using a bought one from the Aviation Theory Centre. All the checks are near identical to the certified copy, however it is smaller, you can write on it then wipe it off. Also, it goes over better with first time passengers, pulling out the 'instruction manual' to get the plane started normally requires a bit of explaining to calm nerves, rather than the little flip book that is clearly a checklist. I’m using a bought one from the Aviation Theory Centre. All the checks are near identical to the certified copy, however it is smaller, you can write on it then wipe it off.
Also, it goes over better with first time passengers, pulling out the ‘instruction manual’ to get the plane started normally requires a bit of explaining to calm nerves, rather than the little flip book that is clearly a checklist.

]]> By: Doug http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/comment-page-1/#comment-2371 Doug Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:47:19 +0000 http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/#comment-2371 it's interesting that you ask this. i've had this discussion with a few people out my way. the checklists in the planes we rent are on 8.5x11 laminated sheets of paper and i find them hard to read and hold. i bought one a few months ago (CheckMate Checkbook II from http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/sep/2572) and it's a one handed flip over style and i really like it. the pages are easier to read and i can put it on the yoke clip. the tabs are it are easy to get to and the back side of the sheets contain a ton of useful info. i compared it to the sheets in the rentals and the preflight/start/emergency lists are almost the same. i've added a couple of notes on the one i bought and i'm much happier with it. of course, i'm talking about the 172R so it's not even in the ballpark of what you're talking about but i like to just sit and read it off and on for a refresher. it’s interesting that you ask this. i’ve had this discussion with a few people out my way. the checklists in the planes we rent are on 8.5×11 laminated sheets of paper and i find them hard to read and hold. i bought one a few months ago (CheckMate Checkbook II from http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/sep/2572)
and it’s a one handed flip over style and i really like it. the pages are easier to read and i can put it on the yoke clip. the tabs are it are easy to get to and the back side of the sheets contain a ton of useful info. i compared it to the sheets in the rentals and the preflight/start/emergency lists are almost the same. i’ve added a couple of notes on the one i bought and i’m much happier with it. of course, i’m talking about the 172R so it’s not even in the ballpark of what you’re talking about but i like to just sit and read it off and on for a refresher.

]]> By: Jason http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/comment-page-1/#comment-2369 Jason Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:00:14 +0000 http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/04/22/do-you-write-your-own-check-lists/#comment-2369 I have used custom checklists (small cards I print and laminate) for a while for a few reasons. The biggest one is that I want to do more checks than the typical 1970's POH would have me do. But, like you said, there are also checklist items that are in a goofy order in some POHs, so I like the re-arrange in those rare cases. I do feel it is important to start with a verbatim copy of the POH checklists and only modify with careful consideration. A custom checklist is also a good place to add reminders on how to brief passengers as well as a great place to mark down the fundamentals of emergency procedures. Just keep the list in your lap and it's ready and waiting if you ever need it! I have used custom checklists (small cards I print and laminate) for a while for a few reasons. The biggest one is that I want to do more checks than the typical 1970’s POH would have me do.

But, like you said, there are also checklist items that are in a goofy order in some POHs, so I like the re-arrange in those rare cases. I do feel it is important to start with a verbatim copy of the POH checklists and only modify with careful consideration.

A custom checklist is also a good place to add reminders on how to brief passengers as well as a great place to mark down the fundamentals of emergency procedures. Just keep the list in your lap and it’s ready and waiting if you ever need it!

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