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	<title>Comments on: Frankfurt vs. Heathrow&#8230; what do you bet ?</title>
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		<title>By: Frankfurt apron push-back: Mea Culpa &#124; Plastic Pilot</title>
		<link>http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/10/10/frankfurt-vs-heathrow-what-do-you-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-16936</link>
		<dc:creator>Frankfurt apron push-back: Mea Culpa &#124; Plastic Pilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my &#8220;Frankfurt vs. Heathrow&#8221; post I ironised about the need for push-back out of a &#8220;mid-apron&#8221; parking [...]</description>
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		<title>By: PlasticPilot</title>
		<link>http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/10/10/frankfurt-vs-heathrow-what-do-you-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-9813</link>
		<dc:creator>PlasticPilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Axel, you won&#039;t have to wait that much... Tonight&#039;s post is a surprise, on a different topic, and the next one, planned for the 14th is already about the Alps.

I also had a special thought when I saw the AOPA magazine. All the PC12s I saw while visiting the factory were the NG version. However, it was not possible to go in the cockpit. It is a bit frustrating, but were I a Pilatus customer, I would probably not like to see my plane to be become a visitors center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Axel, you won&#8217;t have to wait that much&#8230; Tonight&#8217;s post is a surprise, on a different topic, and the next one, planned for the 14th is already about the Alps.</p>
<p>I also had a special thought when I saw the AOPA magazine. All the PC12s I saw while visiting the factory were the NG version. However, it was not possible to go in the cockpit. It is a bit frustrating, but were I a Pilatus customer, I would probably not like to see my plane to be become a visitors center.</p>
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		<title>By: Axel</title>
		<link>http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/10/10/frankfurt-vs-heathrow-what-do-you-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-9812</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great! I&#039;m sure I speak for many of your readers when I say I&#039;m very much looking forward to that!

Did you see the cover story in the October issue of AOPA Pilot? It&#039;s a fascinating story about the Pilatus PC-12NG. Did you have a chance to see any of those while visiting the Pilatus factory in Switzerland?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! I&#8217;m sure I speak for many of your readers when I say I&#8217;m very much looking forward to that!</p>
<p>Did you see the cover story in the October issue of AOPA Pilot? It&#8217;s a fascinating story about the Pilatus PC-12NG. Did you have a chance to see any of those while visiting the Pilatus factory in Switzerland?</p>
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		<title>By: PlasticPilot</title>
		<link>http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/10/10/frankfurt-vs-heathrow-what-do-you-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-9807</link>
		<dc:creator>PlasticPilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From several recent comments, it seems that many readers dream of flying the Alps. Stay tuned, I&#039;m preparing a series on this topic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From several recent comments, it seems that many readers dream of flying the Alps. Stay tuned, I&#8217;m preparing a series on this topic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Axel</title>
		<link>http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/10/10/frankfurt-vs-heathrow-what-do-you-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-9806</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I&#039;m back to Europe again and as soon as I can afford to go through with it, I&#039;ll just make a stop in the Frankfurt area to pick you up and we&#039;ll head straight for the Alps....with your local knowledge of the area it&#039;s bound to be a sure-fire success! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I&#8217;m back to Europe again and as soon as I can afford to go through with it, I&#8217;ll just make a stop in the Frankfurt area to pick you up and we&#8217;ll head straight for the Alps&#8230;.with your local knowledge of the area it&#8217;s bound to be a sure-fire success! <img src='http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PlasticPilot</title>
		<link>http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/10/10/frankfurt-vs-heathrow-what-do-you-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-9798</link>
		<dc:creator>PlasticPilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 07:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Axel, I&#039;ll be happy to fly the Alps with you, if you stop somewhere in Germany to pick me up. Talking about floats, you can do that in Como, in norther Italy: http://www.aeroclubcomo.com/En/Henglish.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Axel, I&#8217;ll be happy to fly the Alps with you, if you stop somewhere in Germany to pick me up. Talking about floats, you can do that in Como, in norther Italy: <a href="http://www.aeroclubcomo.com/En/Henglish.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.aeroclubcomo.com/En/Henglish.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Axel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be nice. I&#039;ll do that. I am playing with some ideas for some sort of scenic and memorable flight that I can do when I get back to Europe after my stay in the U.S to celebrate the completion of my flight training in the U.S. Some ideas that I have come up with so far include something like a sightseeing flight across the Alps or maybe a floatplane flight hopping between the lakes and fjords of the Norwegian mountains. Given that my post-flight-training financial situation allows for such an adventure, if you want to come along for such a flight that would be great!

I plan on getting my floatplane rating as well while I am in Florida, so it would be fun to put that to some good use when I get back home to Europe again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be nice. I&#8217;ll do that. I am playing with some ideas for some sort of scenic and memorable flight that I can do when I get back to Europe after my stay in the U.S to celebrate the completion of my flight training in the U.S. Some ideas that I have come up with so far include something like a sightseeing flight across the Alps or maybe a floatplane flight hopping between the lakes and fjords of the Norwegian mountains. Given that my post-flight-training financial situation allows for such an adventure, if you want to come along for such a flight that would be great!</p>
<p>I plan on getting my floatplane rating as well while I am in Florida, so it would be fun to put that to some good use when I get back home to Europe again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PlasticPilot</title>
		<link>http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/10/10/frankfurt-vs-heathrow-what-do-you-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-9760</link>
		<dc:creator>PlasticPilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Axel, yes Lufthansa flies directly to Orlando out of Frankfurt, but I would not call that &quot;non-stop&quot;. I&#039;m thinking of the stops at security, passport check, security again, boarding, bus, ...

Let me know if you fly through FRA again, so that we can arrange something together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Axel, yes Lufthansa flies directly to Orlando out of Frankfurt, but I would not call that &#8220;non-stop&#8221;. I&#8217;m thinking of the stops at security, passport check, security again, boarding, bus, &#8230;</p>
<p>Let me know if you fly through FRA again, so that we can arrange something together.</p>
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		<title>By: Axel</title>
		<link>http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/10/10/frankfurt-vs-heathrow-what-do-you-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-9754</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PP,
Yeah, it definitely makes sense when travelling from Norway. If only I was living in Frankfurt....Lufthansa flies non-stop from Frankfurt to Orlando. That would easily make up for the little extra time it takes to get through a major hub like FRA. Add a connecting flight from Norway and it all becomes a different story though...

I saw your picture of the Autobahn taken on the approach to runway 25R in Frankfurt. I must have been landing on that very same runway once as I remember the exact same view....same road sign and everything. Fun to see it again. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PP,<br />
Yeah, it definitely makes sense when travelling from Norway. If only I was living in Frankfurt&#8230;.Lufthansa flies non-stop from Frankfurt to Orlando. That would easily make up for the little extra time it takes to get through a major hub like FRA. Add a connecting flight from Norway and it all becomes a different story though&#8230;</p>
<p>I saw your picture of the Autobahn taken on the approach to runway 25R in Frankfurt. I must have been landing on that very same runway once as I remember the exact same view&#8230;.same road sign and everything. Fun to see it again. <img src='http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PlasticPilot</title>
		<link>http://www.plasticpilot.net/blog/2008/10/10/frankfurt-vs-heathrow-what-do-you-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-9745</link>
		<dc:creator>PlasticPilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 07:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sylvia (again), your own comparison between Saratoga and EasyJet is also very interesting: http://www.fearoflanding.com/misc/faster-than-a-speeding-jet-single-engine-travels/

I flew twice Geneva to Biggin-Hill, which is three times longer with a Saratoga than with EasyJet (to Gatwick, obviously), but the concept of a &quot;queue&quot; is simply non-existent at Biggin and on the GA side of Geneva.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sylvia (again), your own comparison between Saratoga and EasyJet is also very interesting: <a href="http://www.fearoflanding.com/misc/faster-than-a-speeding-jet-single-engine-travels/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fearoflanding.com/misc/faster-than-a-speeding-jet-single-engine-travels/</a></p>
<p>I flew twice Geneva to Biggin-Hill, which is three times longer with a Saratoga than with EasyJet (to Gatwick, obviously), but the concept of a &#8220;queue&#8221; is simply non-existent at Biggin and on the GA side of Geneva.</p>
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